Kam Knight is a coach, speaker, and author of several best-selling books in the area of mental performance such as memory, concentration, and productivity. Over the past 15 years he has dedicated his life to understanding the secrets of the mind and how to optimize its performance.
“Your older, more primitive parts of the brain have more control over us than the newer, more evolved parts of the brain.”
– Kam Knight
Kam shares the biology behind fear and other emotions, the power of mental images, and the hard-wired challenges to concentration and memory. In addition to the background, he provides techniques to harness fear, to use visualization more powerfully than willpower, to convince our brains to concentrate, to solidify memories and practice recollection, and speed reading for faster learning.
“As humans we forget up to 80% of what we see, hear, and learn within hours.”
– Kam Knight
Kam Knight founded MindLily.com to bring together radical, revolutionary, and cutting-edge tips and techniques to help people enhance their mental abilities and bring a flow of success in their lives.
Kam takes on the challenge of enhancing your mental and personal performance by understanding that as humans, we have all these mechanisms and processes going on inside our minds and bodies. By understanding these processes, you can make them work for you, instead of against you. Kam has spent decades learning and understanding these mechanisms and processes.
In his free time, when not writing or teaching, Kam enjoys globetrotting, having traveled to nearly 100 countries around the world. His adventures include diving with hammerhead sharks in the Galapagos, swimming with a whale shark in Honduras, biking the Death Road in Bolivia, hiking the tallest mountain range in Africa, sleeping in the world’s oldest rainforest in Malaysia, and climbing over a dozen active volcanoes.
- 4 Main fears that drive us
- Purpose of emotions
- Visualizing a successful day
- Willpower loses to mental images
- Align primitive & modern brains to concentrate
- Why we forget & how to remember
- Actionable speed-reading technique
- Self-talk to better concentration
Repeat 10x daily:
- I have strong power of concentration
- I easily focus on any task or activity I choose
- My mind is alert and attentive
- I pay attention, it is easy for me to pay attention. I enjoy paying attention.
- I am in control of my thoughts, decisions, and actions
- I am free from mental clutter and distractions
- I easily and naturally ignore distractions
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Kam [00:00:01] I want people to understand that the most important thing that they can do is not rely on their natural mental processes to remember information and that's because as humans we forgot up to 80% of what we hear see and learn within a few hours of hearing seeing and learning it.
Michael [00:00:37] Man of Mastery podcast episode 39 with Cam night guys. What is up? Hope you're having an incredible week so far. Welcome back to the show the podcast the tribe the community where we are all about rejecting mediocrity living your passions. Uncovering your purpose through action in service to others.
Michael [00:00:59] I really appreciate you appreciate you being here and your time and your trust if you're new you are right on time here. We're really starting to pick up some momentum and rolling into 2020 and speaking of 2020. If you're anything like me man. I have started the year off with probably a few breakthroughs, but certainly a number of breakdowns.
Michael [00:01:22] I'm trying to get back on a consistent intermittent daily fasting routine. I ran my first race of the season this last weekend and got absolutely crushed. It's a great reminder in in that failure or you know, kind of Lessons Learned there that there's work to be done and and likewise I stepped on the scale for the first time in a while the other day and it it definitely told me the same thing so as much as we like to talk about the the success journey and events.
Michael [00:01:54] I think it's important to be transparent about the challenges and the Yours as well, so just getting that out there. If nothing else for myself a recommitment to just get after it here early in the new year and and get it get it going the right way and to that end. I hope to have some things coming up that my all should be helpful for you in that for me. You
Michael [00:02:16] know, that's that's kind of the Physical Realm but today in particular, you know, I talk about mind body and soul. Today's kind of more about about the mind Cam. Night is a guy who certainly knows adversity who knows failure. He's become very very well-read and and studied and talks to us today synthesizes that knowledge and that experience to talk about emotions anxiety how to harness fear talks about memory and why the brain does what it does how to improve memory and recollection how to improve concentration even talks about we get into Speed reading something that's always fascinated me as a concept, but I always kind of thought I don't know.
Michael [00:03:03] Maybe it's a gimmick. So we talked about some simple techniques to start speed reading and reading and learning faster. So I think you're really going to enjoy this one. Let's let's hear what cam night's experience has been and what he can bring to us and that in the realm of harnessing the power of the Mind.
Michael [00:03:23] Alright today, I'm really excited and pleased to have coach and best-selling author cam night. He is an expert in mental performance in areas such as memory concentration and productivity. His work is about unlocking the secrets of the mind and optimizing performance. So this is a perfect fit to what we talked about in the theme of the man of Mastery podcast and Community here learning and applying ways to improve performance in all.
Michael [00:03:51] Remains of our lives so cam welcome. Glad to have you
Kam [00:03:54] thank you Michael. I'm glad to be here.
Michael [00:03:57] Yeah. I'm excited to talk to you. I know you've got a number of topics and number of books in terms of where to start. I know one of the things I love to learn about is where people have turned failure into learning lessons and success or one of the things that always sticks in my mind is Tony Robbins likes to say that the change happens either by inspiration or desperation.
Michael [00:04:20] So, could you Give us a bit of your background story and how you talk about where you had struggles with focus and controlling emotion and the things that learn you to discover what you now teach others
Kam [00:04:31] sure. So I've got like two main running stories of how I got into this one. Is that as far back as I could remember? I had a very unquiet mind. I had a lot of challenges sitting still organizing my thoughts paying attention anything that revolves around the mind I had extreme difficulty.
Kam [00:04:53] And when people hear this they immediately think add and what I respond with this. I wish there were only a TD because in addition to my thoughts and I was going on my head my emotions were raging and more or less cycling out of control and when people hear that they think bipolar and to my response.
Kam [00:05:18] I wish it were only that because it Was much more severe than that. I was just in a place where like mentally and emotionally. I was just a mess. I really had no control of my thoughts as well as other things in my life. And when you're a kid, this is kind of almost expected to be a little bit hyper little bit out of control and the expectancy.
Kam [00:05:42] Is that as you grow up These are phases that you grow out of but unfortunately that wasn't the case for me, you know, as I got older and to high school and in college and then graduating it actually got worse than it kind of affected literally all areas of my life personal professional as well as academic and I've always had a strong drive and so I've always been able to kind of contain this Mayhem because Mayhem is the perfect work word.
Kam [00:06:14] To be able to do what I wanted just long enough to get the results I needed. So for example studying for an exam. I could kind of control it and focus just long enough to do well and you know get into college and then and then to the real world, but then in the real world, it just became just too much.
Kam [00:06:35] So I just got on a path of trying to figure this out and been on a healing Journey for a while and that's what I've What I have in my book is what I've learned through that Journey.
Michael [00:06:48] Yeah, that sounds incredibly challenging and somehow you were able to keep it together for quite a while until until you really faced with the rest after school the rest of life and career challenges. So where did you start in terms of learning and
Kam [00:07:03] self-healing? Well, I started with some audio tapes. So after I graduated college, I got my first job and I was extremely extremely nervous about it. And I remember being at Barnes and Nobles and I was at the audio section and I saw these tapes one said managing anxiety and another said overcoming fear and I'm like I need that so I bought the tapes went home and started listening to them and they turned out to be like affirmation / visualization scripts where they put you in a relaxation exercise and then you affirm a bunch of statements.
Kam [00:07:44] When you do a few visual aids visualization exercises and I just made it a point to do that on a daily basis. I didn't know much about affirmations. I didn't know much about visualizations and I didn't really know much about personal development. I was like really my first step into the whole thing and then afterwards I came across a few books some older books and one of them was power of the subconscious mind by Joseph Murphy and another one was What to say when you talk to yourself by Chad Homesteader and they were talking about visualization and self-talk and I'm like I do that and so they talk about the science of why it works and why so beneficial so I kept at it and then from there I came across other books and then from there it just kind of added on top of it but really the foundations for me were the self-talk and
Michael [00:08:39] visualization. Yeah, I really like that and I have to think as you travel around now and you share your book and your story and your teachings and I know you've traveled extensively you must run across a number of people who express the same challenges. I think life's gotten so busy or caught up in 24 hour news cycle constant, if not addiction the attention required by things like all of our devices and communication mechanisms.
Michael [00:09:08] So with the with the world racing at the pace it is and are He's racing to try to keep up what maybe you had that seemed a bit unique as you were growing up you find that's a challenge for many people now.
Kam [00:09:20] Yeah, I definitely think that I think there is I think one of the challenges right now for people in our current society and in our time is just the sheer level of options that we have and our options have options. So for example, if I wanted to go work out, you know, my options are running bicycling.
Kam [00:09:41] Swimming weightlifting yoga and within that we have all these options of of let's say within yoga of I could do Bikram Yoga Stanga Vinyasa Baptiste Yen and within those there are variations and it's like really easy to get lost in all the variations and that's just it for trying to focus on a particular task that doesn't even include all these side activities that are just there to fill our downtime like social media.
Kam [00:10:11] Yeah in video games and they can become a Big King become a bit
Michael [00:10:15] much. Overwhelming even paralyzing you might say yes and you mentioned fear which is really interesting to me. So I spoke to a guest not too long ago named Patrick Sweeney and he calls himself the the fear Guru the and and the reason is and and something I learned from him about about fear is so this this guy was performing at seemingly a fairly top level in life sort of Olympic level.
Michael [00:10:47] As a younger man, and then successful technology entrepreneur and then his health and life really came down crashing down around him and when he had that opportunity for some introspection and to figure out he beat cancer and how he was going to live the rest of his life, but he realizes really everything he had done the way he acted socially the choices he made and in career some of this overachieving sort of result.
Michael [00:11:15] It was all driven by fear. And sort of avoidance behavior and so he's got out and studied that and he's really spent his years since then trying to figure out how to do the opposite of that how to train courage how to learn to face fears and it's got a book coming out called fear as fuel that you might want might want to check out and it's q1 coming up this year, but it's a really interesting concept that fear and all these things that can be so paralyzing in our lives don't have to be that way there.
Michael [00:11:46] There are ways that we can train the mind to actually turn that around and use it as an asset.
Kam [00:11:52] Yeah, I know Sierra I think when you were not a thing, but as you were talking about what he was going through like all the things that he did was out of fear and avoiding the consequences of fear. I felt like you were talking about me because in many ways that was how my life was running to it was by fear and There are I believe that there's kind of four main fears that are driving us.
Kam [00:12:21] It's the fear of rejection. It's a fear of failure. It's the fear of of the unknown and the fear of success and the thing to understand about fear is that It's they're not to make our life bag.
Kam [00:12:42] But to help us is there to guide us and a lot of misconceptions we have around fear is that we need to get rid of here. We need to overcome fear, but I personally believe it's important to befriend the fear because fear is running through what's all the time even something like when we're walking into a room fear is guiding it coursing through our bodies to help us move.
Kam [00:13:08] Of around maneuver around objects in that room like the tables and chairs. So if we get too close to the table Friel will run part of the body where we're close to it to indicate. We're getting too close and if we're doing something else like even in conversation, our fear is coming in and out to make sure that what we say comes out coherently and that it's not too offensive so fears like always there and if we can Stand that it's always there and I kind of except that it's there to help and guide us and then if we can do that, it can help become more of an assistant in our lives versus something that we have to push past and overcome.
Michael [00:13:54] It does make sense. It's a really interesting point to think about I sometimes think of fear. So I agree it can really be a tool and certainly at one level. It's there for just biological preservation. Right, right. As just kind of think of the sort of Animal Kingdom sort of dangers, but in at least in First World Society, that's not as much of the way that we need to use fear today.
Michael [00:14:20] So in the ways that we can use it as a tool to guide as I think you make some really good points the in particular around the unknowns, I think that's that's something that I've tried to tackle where I find that oftentimes few years is a great indication maybe of something that you might want to run. Words, you know if it's really not truly something that's that's potentially harmful to your life or health.
Michael [00:14:43] It might be an indication of an opportunity to grow but that oftentimes that unknown can be our mind runs away with it and you just make something way bigger out of it than it really is.
Kam [00:14:55] Yes, and it helps really understand where the sphere of unknown comes from and I will even say I think the most powerful force in our life would be the fear of unknown and the reason It so powerful is because you know when we can go back to our hunter-gatherer days when we're out in the wild dangerous could come out of anywhere.
Kam [00:15:16] They could come from, you know, a lion leaping out of the bushes from a bacteria in the water from from even the weather being too harsh. So you didn't know where the mind didn't know where the danger would come from. So any time we do something new the sphere of Known comes out over.
Kam [00:15:39] It's like a blanket fear that just tells you to be careful and it's not saying be careful of some specific thing. But it's the - pretty much unsure of what could come up and now in our day and age in specially in modern society, a lot of those dangerous aren't there.
Kam [00:15:59] So it's easy to do new things without there being severe consequences, but we're still will curing processes and mechanisms that were built as if things are going to be really catastrophic and so any time we try something new even if it's a new restaurant or even if it's a new book anything that's new the fear of the unknown will come up and it'll come up for some people as intensely as it would if we were back out in the wild, but it's important to realize that it's even though it's really intense that feeling of fear.
Kam [00:16:38] Known doesn't mean that the outcome it's gonna be a severe and if we can learn to just kind of push past that fear of unknown and do it consistently over time. The Mind realizes that new things aren't as dangerous as they seem and this is kind of what I've done, you know, having traveled as much as I have and then pushing myself into becoming an author and speaker and now podcasting I've had to push through unknowns quite a lot.
Kam [00:17:08] Laughs and I just have a mindset if there's something new I will try it just to get over that fear of unknown and over time. It's helped me try more new things and I'll be honest not everything works out, but it's not like back in the hunter-gatherer days where it would be catastrophic all it means is that I try try it again or try something else.
Michael [00:17:30] Yeah, exactly. There's a there's a great book read a while ago. I think it's called The Gift of fear that is along the lines of starting to train that muscle of recognizing which of those fears is really something that I should listen to because maybe there's really a danger and and the recognition of those other categories.
Michael [00:17:53] That's probably most of life for most of us most of the time which is you know, that heart rate gets going and the adrenaline pumps and the mind is racing in that sort of fight or flight mode that comes across biologically. So they're all these biological markers that happen with that fear. But starting to train the mind to understand that most of the time this this isn't this isn't a life-or-death fear.
Michael [00:18:17] It's probably is something that that would help me grow and and helped me develop so that the mindset or I call it kind of training that mental muscle is as a great exercise, but it is something that has to be
Kam [00:18:30] Great. Yeah, exactly. I think you hit on a really important Point are our fears and even our other emotions. They seem like they're there to kind of like make like difficult but at their very core they're there to help us they're there to help and guide us but it's really important to have a sort of a relationship with it because you know fear will come up and then you'll analyze why this fear is coming up.
Kam [00:18:58] You can break it down into the four different fears. I had mentioned fear of rejection success unknown and the other one I can think of but and then You realize why that fear is coming up and you still take action and then you notice that nothing bad happened. Well that fear learns that emotion learns not to come up again in that situation and overtime when you go back and forth working with that relate with the fear, then there's a relationship that forms where it doesn't come up when nothing bad's going to happen and it will come up when you know in the past you did make a mistake and Things didn't go well as a warning and you can say yeah, I didn't work out so well then but this time it'll be different and then try again,
Michael [00:19:47] right? Well, you mentioned fear and visualization sort of at the same time in your introduction. So in terms of tools and ways to start to train what you just described have you used visualization as one of those tools is that one way that you've addressed fear?
Kam [00:20:04] Yeah visualization has been really key in my development. Men, especially getting over a lot of my emotions including the emotion of fear, and I'm sure you've heard of visualization before it kind of gets talked about a lot or actually there was a certain point and I talked about quite a bit but I don't feel like it's being talked about as much so any time I'm doing something new or something that's difficult.
Kam [00:20:30] I will actually visualize myself doing it and there's a few ways. I will do that one is to just imagine In that thing that is causing me intense anxiety and I'll picture myself in there. For example recently. I got onto trying to become a professional speaker a public speaker.
Kam [00:20:51] And for a long time. This was an extremely terrifying Endeavor for me. Like I avoided it like it was a play. In fact in my adult life. I don't think I've ever really had to get in front of an audience and I made sure that I didn't or a voted any opportunity that would allow me to But now as an author it's important for me to do that.
Kam [00:21:11] And the way I would do that to get over the fear is I would close my eyes and then I would just actually imagine myself giving the speech or presentation to the audience and letting that fear come up and I would continue to deliver the presentation standing in that fear.
Kam [00:21:32] And then sometimes what I would do is just pay attention to the fear not actually work about Think about the presentation I would just create the visual image of me standing in front of an audience which would feel scary and then the negative. Mm fearful emotions would come up and I would just notice and observe that emotion and what I realized is that our emotions.
Kam [00:21:57] They just want to be noticed again. They're not trying to make our life difficult. They're there to guide us and so when an emotion comes up, especially something like an It's fear their purpose is that they're trying to get our attention and what a lot of times we do is we try to suppress the we try to shut it out and we try to ignore it and if the purpose of an emotion is to communicate to us and it comes up to communicate and we shot it out because what happens it's going to try harder to get our attention.
Kam [00:22:30] And so what that means is it grows stronger and intensity. And so a lot of times our emotions get stronger not because the situation is that Intense or that the situation that's causing the fear. Is that severe but mainly because we're not paying attention to the Motions. We're not listening to it or not heating what is trying to communicate and once we do it tends to subside.
Kam [00:22:56] So a great way to trigger that fear is to visualize yourself in a situation that causes you fear and then Pay attention to it just put your attention on it and just notice it what's trying to communicate and you'll get a lot of data from that.
Michael [00:23:14] But intuitively makes a lot of sense. I don't think I've thought about it exactly that way before I'll have to give that a try do you have so you gave an example of a particular activity? So as as launching into book tour and being an author public speaking which the surveys say that many people fear that more than death.
Michael [00:23:37] Yeah, so that's a big one. And so that was around a particular. Let's say professional pursuit or activity or things that we're going Come up on a schedule periodic basis. Do you have anything that you like to break down as well in a daily routine? So I'd like to know in general about your maybe morning evening intraday routine if you have one but in particular, do you proactively use visualization as part of a regular maybe daily routine?
Kam [00:24:04] Yeah. So Vision was that visualization is great for how I had just described overcoming. I'm like an intense emotion where you visualize yourself. elf in an intense situation and just let that emotion come up without trying to change it and more importantly just observing it but I all but it can be used other ways to one of the ways that been kind of talked about a lot within the realm of manifestation and Law of Attraction like such as the secret is visualizing the outcome that you would like to design that you desire but another way which I like to use as a routine every morning is I think about everything that I want to get done or accomplished in that day.
Kam [00:24:50] So in the evening, I write down all the stuff that I have on my plate for the next day. And then the next morning when I wake up. I actually visualize myself doing each of those items and accomplishing each of those items and it going well, even if I don't even if my emotions are saying This might not go.
Kam [00:25:14] Well, this might not come through. This might be a waste of time. I put that to the side and just visualize myself doing the best. I can with each of the items and going from one to the next making sure I've completed it now. It might seem like it'll take a long time to do this, but it actually doesn't you know, once you wake out a once you get up in the morning, there's some like lingering time that we all of us kind of just Laying in bed for a little bit and that's the best moment to just take about 10 minutes to visualize all your to dues for that day.
Michael [00:25:54] I like that are you so there's a there's an author and a coach who's been a coach of mine. And because I've learned a good bit from this material. I mentioned quite often but two things that came up so want to find out have you any familiarity with Mark Divine. Have you heard of him?
Kam [00:26:12] No, I can't say I have
Michael [00:26:14] so he happens to be here in the in the San Diego area as well retired from a military background Special Forces military and then Although he's quite well known for that background. He's almost equally if not more sort of a yoga best practices and human development sort of global service oriented mindset is what he does now author speaker coach and on the on the fear aspect.
Michael [00:26:44] He he pulls from a Native American story about two wolves the fear wolf and the courage Wolf and it's a way to visualize this embodiment of you know, I am I am I feeding fear or my feeding courage is what he talks about. And then the reason I thought of it in particular as you talked about how you how you attack may be an acute fear like speaking or just proactively your day his what he calls that is that visualization.
Michael [00:27:14] He calls winning first in your mind. So first mentally seeing how you're going to as you said not only do those things but accomplish them and have them go well.
Kam [00:27:25] Yeah, and there was a famous psychologist named Mike. I'm going to butcher his name. He was a French psychologist. I think his name was a meal coup. And he said when there's a conflict between will and your mental images. It's the mental images that always win and what that means is if you have the desire for something more to finish something and to have a certain outcome.
Kam [00:27:54] But your mental images are saying it's not going to work. I'm going to fail I won't have enough time no matter how much effort you put in or how much will you have the mental images are going to win? And so if we can take the time to change our mental images to what we want in a direction that we want to go in then our mind is going to guide us better towards their mental images and with this, you know morning routine or just doing a quick visual.
Kam [00:28:24] Mission of all the things that you want to get done in that day and how you want the outcome to come out. Unconsciously, and naturally it will kind of guide you in that direction. You'll find that during the day. You're not even putting as much effort because you've kind of given the mind the outcome you're seeking or the direction to go and the unconscious just does everything in the background to help you achieve it,
Michael [00:28:51] right and even that evening routine of having everything written down I find allows for a better night's sleep. You know, I got it out of my head. My mind doesn't have to race around. And all night thinking about it. It's just teed up for the next day. And then maybe one thing I might add to that is. I know we all like to think we're really tough and we've got a lot of willpower.
Michael [00:29:13] But hey, it's you know, it's January. It's a new year and just look at how many New Year's resolutions last a very short amount of time. I think our willpower is extremely fleeting what to me is a lot more powerful is routine and discipline and consistency that really enable things. Like ultimately willpower. So knowing that willpower is fragile having a routine of repeating those visualizations as mental images that makes a lot of sense.
Kam [00:29:41] Yeah, you kind of touched on a few couple things that I want to Riff on one is the whole thing with willpower, you know in television and in movies and you know at the gym this talk of willpower and tough It gets a lot of talk, but I don't think I agree with you that relying on Willpower alone is not going to get you far and what I find is in order to be productive and to stay consistent because consistency is extremely important.
Kam [00:30:16] Then I know that you had a pretty big discussion about consistency with Sean butcher in podcast That You released a few few weeks ago. But it's really these things that we do outside of the actual work that's going to help us do the work and so things like the visualization and creating your to-do list and night before a really key things and I want to kind of Riff on the to do this part because you know having written a book on concentration and improving Focus.
Kam [00:30:50] This is one of the techniques I help people that I get people to help them get more spoke get more focused. And the reason to do this are so important is because inside our mind, we have a lot of activity. We have thoughts running in and out. We have mental images flashing back and forth the day dreams or fantasies or other mental images and then we also have a ton of emotions and feelings coercing Every Which Way and all of this activity actually competes for attention with what we're doing or Things from our side of her head and it's really important to understand is all this activity is not there just for the sake of being there.
Kam [00:31:36] It's there to kind of guide us and to help us move through the world and one of the ways it does that is by reminding of things that we should be doing or need to get done. For example, I might be driving to the hardware store and I hardly thought pop up saying hey, don't forget to pick up the dry cleaning before close.
Kam [00:31:56] Is it or I might be on this conversation and I'll get a twinge of fear that hey maybe I left the oven on so throughout our day. Our mind is tracking all these tasks and activities and it is signaling to us what we need to get done and what we may not get done and what not. The problem is when we track too many things in our head our mind gets overloaded.
Kam [00:32:22] It's bending all its effort on tracking what to do as Is to doing what we need to do and I'm sure people have experienced this where they're just have so much on their plate. They just can't take action. And the reason for that is because their mind is overloaded with just tracking about everything that we need to be doing and the other other challenge of that is that it kind of it when we have too much in our head too much going on in our head it actually breaks our Focus so we might be working on a task and then I thought come up saying hey, don't forget this.
Kam [00:32:56] This and another thought might come up. Hey, remember you have to go there and as these reminders come up, it breaks our train of thought and so it's really important to get all of these things out of our head and down on paper in the form of some sort of a to-do list of schedule because once we get it out of our head the mind can feel more at ease it knows that you're aware of what you need to get done.
Kam [00:33:22] And then instead of using all the resources to track everything they can. Use those resources to actually do those things. How do you how do you
Michael [00:33:32] recommend so when you write about concentration, I noticed that you talk about the training the ability to maintain Focus attention, I think ultimately productivity for hours at a time. But when you talk about the way our minds race around all those things that it's warning us that we still need to do.
Michael [00:33:52] I guess I've always thought about productivity in shorter bursts or or it seems to me that there are sort of these laws of physics like as much space as you have in your house. You're going to fill it up with junk as much time as you allow yourself yourself and your schedule your work is going to expand to that time box. So I've always thought about it. If you try to sit in silence and concentrate without allowing other thoughts in that's a very very difficult thing for most of us to do for even a few seconds, which is I think why I've thought about productivity and concentration in shorter bursts, so could you talk about More about as you're saying our minds racing what you recommend people do with all those thoughts or getting them down on paper and how that can extend these bouts of concentration and productivity into two hours long
Kam [00:34:39] sessions. Okay. So first it really helps to understand that concentration is one of the most important skills that we can learn and because it's so important for some reason it tends to be the most challenging, you know, the things that seem to be easier now, As important and the reason concentration is so challenging is because the analogy I like to use is that developing concentration is like taming a wild animal or or taming a wild beast.
Kam [00:35:14] And the reason I use that analogy is because our unconscious mind actually comes from the wild it evolved from hundreds of years hundreds of millions of years of evolution. Where is our thinking mind? Our human mind the neocortex is only been around for a few hundred thousand years. And so more or less concentration is a battle.
Kam [00:35:35] It's a battle between where you want to put your attention and focus versus where your unconscious is designed to put its attention and focus and it's really important to understand is Our older perimeter Parts have much more control and influence on us than our newer more evolved parts of the brain.
Kam [00:35:58] And so it's usually tends to be the unconscious the unconscious usually kind of winds. And so if concentrations are battle between your unconscious and your unconscious, it really helps to align your unconscious with your conscious desires. To get the unconscious to work with you on what it is you want to do.
Kam [00:36:23] So, you know if you are trying to do a task, but your unconscious want to do everything something different. It actually becomes a battle and that's where the difficulty and the challenge arises. But if I'm not our hand you want to work on a task and the unconscious is going to support you by giving you motivated feelings and help you focus then it becomes a breeze.
Kam [00:36:46] And so that's a really key thing to remember and if so, if it comes down to us aligning our unconscious with our conscious, you know one way to do that. Is that visual exercise, but another way that I find to be extremely extremely helpful is self-talk and sub talk more or less are statements that you say and repeat to yourself of the changes that you want to have or have happened in your life.
Kam [00:37:13] For example, if I was shy insecure And I wanted to be more confident. I would repeat statements. Like I'm a strong assertive person. I communicate my needs and wants now it may not seem like affirming such statements would have that much effect, but it's huge self-talk is a technique used by people in in just about any discipline to perform at a very high level and stop talk works for several main reasons, but one of the main reasons is that those self-talk actually goes in and rewires your mind.
Kam [00:37:49] So if you repeat a set of statement those statements seep into our unconscious and bring out the facts of what the what the statements are saying. So if I repeat statements like I'm a strong assertive person. I actually start to become strong and assertive if I repeat statements. Like I am I have an excellent memory my memory improves and if we Repeat statements related to concentration like I have strong power of concentration.
Kam [00:38:21] I can focus on anything. I choose our focus and attention over time actually begins to approve.
Michael [00:38:30] So yeah, I know that the sort of the imagination the Imagine things in our mind the brain doesn't know the difference between that and and what's really happened in our lives or in a past. So that visualization is a way of convincing the brain of something that that you want it to be.
Michael [00:38:50] So I guess I hadn't realized that connection. So I know you also write pretty sensibly and you have a book around self-talk so self-talk is one of the mechanisms. That you recommend not only for concentration but for memory
Kam [00:39:03] as well. Yeah, self-talk is my go-to technique for any kind of change and Improvement that anyone in seeking to write a set of self-talk tape write a set of self-talk statement that describe the change or Improvement that you want. So you would write maybe 8 to 12 statements that really hone in on what you're looking to achieve within a specific area and then affirm those statements daily and I have used self-talk in my own life for all sorts of things.
Kam [00:39:34] Things, you know, I told you when back in my past I had mind I was like really out of control and out-of-control mind. You can't just like will yourself to to keep it in check it you have to really go in and change what's going on internally for it to manifest something different and self-talk was really key for that.
Kam [00:39:58] You know anytime. I wanted to break a habit. I use self talk to do that. I wanted to improve a skill. I use self talk as well and I really can't stress self-talk enough if people use it the right way and the right way is to solve I have described it by creating a set of 8 to 12 statements that really hone in on the change that you want and then repeating it on a daily basis.
Michael [00:40:24] They supposed okay, gotcha.
Kam [00:40:27] So if you like I can I have a set of self-talk statements that I can give to your listeners specifically focused on.
Michael [00:40:35] Absolutely. Yeah, I'll follow up with you on that. I'd love to share that.
Kam [00:40:38] Okay, great.
Michael [00:40:39] Can we also talk about memory then as well? So you use that as an example of one of your potential self-talk statements and you also have a book on memory. So how does that really back? And it seems to me that the more we have that monkey mind racing around it makes memory even more difficult.
Kam [00:40:57] Yeah, so memory is huge. I want people to understand that the most important thing that they can do is not rely on their natural mental processes to remember information and that's because as humans we forgot up to 80% of what we hear see and learn within a few hours of hearing seeing and learning it.
Kam [00:41:20] So that's not within a few months weeks or even a few days but within a few hours and what's more is that we rely on our memory to remember It's more than that. We'll come across a great idea an important struction of valuable advice or a painfully obvious fact and think that it's just too great too important to valuable and too obvious to forget and sure enough will forget and then we'll do it again.
Kam [00:41:48] We'll come across an even greater idea more important structure more valuable advice and even more painfully obvious back and think that this time it's just too great and important to forget And we'll forget again and not only do we forget that thought or idea but will forget that we even have on in the first place. It's as if we never received it and majority of us are living our lives like this constantly forgetting new information that's coming our way and you hear the word that history repeats itself.
Kam [00:42:21] Well history repeats itself in our own lives because we're constantly doing the same things making the same mistakes over and over again and what I'd like to say A to the listeners that majority of the advice that we're looking for. We've already come across probably several times. It's just that we forgot and it's really important not to rely on something being important valuable because more than likely will forget and there's like some really key reasons why we forget if you like me to talk a little bit about that, please.
Kam [00:42:55] Okay, so our mind is designed to make us forget. It's actually built to make us forget things and some people would ask. Well, how could that be? Why would my mind make me forget? Well, there are advantages to forgetting one is that majority of the information that we come across on a day-to-day basis is useful only for the short term.
Kam [00:43:19] It's not useful for the long term. So it's important to have a mechanism in place that is designed to throw things out or forget. What's unnecessary. Otherwise our mind would be a cluttered mess and sifting through that mess would be difficult and time-consuming another reason we forget is that CERN events and experiences are are painful.
Kam [00:43:46] So thinking about them create overwhelming Stress and Anxiety. So as a defense mechanism our mind will block out such memories so we can focus on what's important in the moment but related to kind of what we're talking about today and mindsets and you know performance a more important reason why we forget is that we humans are made up of different sets of mechanisms and processes.
Kam [00:44:14] And for these mechanisms for some of these mechanisms to do what they're designed to do, they'll make us forget. So one of the more commonly known mechanism is habit habits are designed to keep us in a routine or pattern of behavior in their efforts habits will do everything they can to ensure that we stick to that routine or pattern of behavior.
Kam [00:44:37] If they didn't they wouldn't be very good at what they did now habits have all sorts of tricks up their sleeves. One of them is to make us forget anything that goes against what we've been habitually in grade to do. So, let's say we learn we read a great book and learn all these great ideas to organize our life.
Kam [00:44:58] The problem is our habits of being messy goes against with being organized. So that habit of being messy is going to do everything in its power to make sure we forget all those ideas. So we never even think about putting them into place. So there's all sorts of reasons why we can or can't do things one of them.
Kam [00:45:20] One of the main reasons comes down to us forgetting.
Michael [00:45:25] And then so how do we flip that around understanding why the brain is designed and works that way for survival and otherwise, so how we flip that around into better
Kam [00:45:34] memory? Okay. So one is to realize that if we come across an important advice just because it's important valuable that we're not to know that we're not just going to instantly remember it in fact majority of the people listening to this podcast will probably forget most of Of what they hear and even you and I Michael will probably forget it.
Kam [00:45:58] It's not a matter of if or that but more about when and I'm not trying to be cynical or pessimistic or trying to say that you know. People don't have a good memory. It's just the way our mind works. So if we can understand that then we understand why it's important to improve our memory or to do something to remember what we're learning and one of the best ways to do that is with the technique called retrieval retrieval is the act of recalling information that we have read her door walks for memory instead of rereading rehearing or re-watching it so for example at after listening to a podcast like this.
Kam [00:46:41] What you would do is think about everything that you had learned as it without going back and re-watching the re listening to the podcast again. And what we what we want to do is get into the habit of recalling information as much as possible. And the more we do that the more we'll be able to retain what it is that we've learned and so we can use retrieval in two ways.
Kam [00:47:06] One is to do a Daily Review at the end of the day. And the other is to retrieve information right after we've come across it. So let's say after reading a book or listen to a podcast. Once it's over. We kind of just go in our mind and go back and think about everything that was discussed and try to see what key takeaways were presented and then go back to the podcast and see if we remembered everything correctly or the other way is at the end of the day you try to retrieve it.
Kam [00:47:39] I think that came across that day including what you learn to so it stays on top of mine. So is that
Michael [00:47:47] a is it repetition then that's that's really solidifying the memory.
Kam [00:47:52] It is a form of repetition and both repetition and retrieval are very effective. And so really when it comes to remember every repetition is the mother of all learning and so you want to repeat the information as soon as possible as often as possible and in as many ways as possible and retrieval is just one form of repetition.
Kam [00:48:16] Allows you to expose yourself to that information. But the reason retrieval specifically works so well and why I suggested it as like the key memory technique is because a challenge of memory is not with putting information into your brain. That's actually quite easy and natural for the brain to do the real challenge is in getting that information out and I'll give you a couple examples to illustrate, you know, if I were asked you if I were to ask you to sing lyrics your favorite song All right here in right now.
Kam [00:48:48] You might probably have a challenge doing so but at the song were playing in the background, you could probably sing along to the tune with no problem or if I ask you for a specific memories from childhood. It may not come up. But if I show you an old child an old toy from childhood everything will you will be taken back to that time like you were there yesterday you'll remember when you got the toy all the places you played with it and everything in between.
Kam [00:49:16] now these examples illustrate that memories can be in our head and seem like they're lost and forgotten the reason they seem like they're awesome forgotten is that we haven't practiced getting the information out and retrieval helps us practice getting information out and if we can regularly practice getting information out that we've learned then we can actually use that information and apply it as opposed to if we just read something and went back and reviewed it that doesn't do anything to actually get the information out.
Michael [00:49:50] Okay, I'm fascinated by that. I've never that I recall there were talking about memory. I've never practiced retrieval to try to build that skill. So I want to read more and learn more from you about that. If I may be use this as a segue to you also write about speed reading so just thinking about the what we might learn that is in our brain as you said seems like maybe it's lost.
Michael [00:50:17] I mean I think about Out learning something very methodically, whether it was listening or watching or reading no matter how slowly and I go through it and try to make sure I remember as you said I'm going to I'm going to forget the vast majority of it. So one of my concerns I've never also never learned speed reading but one of my concerns was well, you know is this is this really a viable technique or am I just going to bypass a lot of information that I won't actually absorb and won't remember, so, can you talk a bit about your Thanks for reading and productivity in that and relate it back to memory.
Michael [00:50:54] Does it still an effective way to absorb and then be able to retrieve the same amount of information?
Kam [00:51:00] Yes. So the challenge with remembering is not necessarily directly related to us the quantity of information that we're absorbing. It's more related to the fact that do we do something afterwards to make sure that we retain it. Because like I said as humans we forget as much as 80% of what we hear see and learn and this is just the way the mind is built.
Kam [00:51:26] That's not something that we can really fight it unless we take action to remember that information so we can learn lots of information and we can be methodical about it. But if we don't do anything to to retain it, then we want people to hold on to it and I do want I can give an example of why.
Kam [00:51:49] You know repetition is important or why it's really important to do something later on to remember information and it's because of the mechanical limit of the brain anytime a memory is Farm grooves or tracks or creating the brain and you can think of these grooves or tracks like Footprints or breadcrumbs that lead to a specific memory the more we repeat a certain input certain thought idea or piece of data, the more those groups are tracks.
Kam [00:52:18] He's deep in making it easier for the brain to find that specific piece of information. Now what's really important to understand is that those groups are tracks They don't depend by how important valuable information is or how methodical you earn learning it. They deepen simply by repeating the information which is why it's so easy to remember a commercial jingle and so hard to remember something as a meeting because that commercial jingle has been repeated so often It's been locked into our mind.
Kam [00:52:51] But if we didn't we didn't repeat something else that was more important. You didn't matter how important valuable it was. It just wouldn't get recorded. So kind of took a long explanation to sit pretty much come to the point where it's not so much how much information we're taking in is what we're doing to be able to remember later and so with speed reading there are different techniques that allow you to take in.
Kam [00:53:19] Out of information at a very short time and if we do something to hold on to that afterwards, we will retain that and what I really recommend people do is what I call review and recall. So after you read a chapter in a book you close that book and try to recall or retrieve as much as you can without going back to the book or your notes.
Kam [00:53:46] So this is where we're using retrieval and practicing getting information out and we try to call up as much details just on our own and then once we've done that we go back to the book Corner nodes and see how much of it we remember and just that act will reinforce that information better and help us remember it longer.
Michael [00:54:08] That's okay. So if I get you right the our brains are designed to forget the vast majority of what we take in and that makes sense. There's just so many stimuli that we pick up there all of our senses in the world. And then it almost sounds like the design is to hold a number of these things in sort of short-term memory you mentioned for a number of hours and then if there's not some reason that if that it sees to hold onto those then they may be discarded unless we do something as you mentioned either right after or hopefully a few hours later in a We review to deepen those grooves deepen those tracks to reinforce or to say hey, this is something we need to hang on to and then if I've got that right, so then in speed reading there are many techniques to read faster, but then in terms of memory you're saying it's it's not about methodical reading.
Michael [00:55:01] It's about review and recall maybe chapter by chapter to deepen those grooves.
Kam [00:55:06] Yes. Yes. I think you have an encapsulated. It perfectly and if you if you or your audience would like to hear a really great speed reading technique. There's this one technique I had developed that I found many people to have triple the reading within a matter of seconds.
Kam [00:55:28] Would you guys be interested in that lay it on
Michael [00:55:30] me? Okay,
Kam [00:55:32] so I'll talk first about how I kind of developed it so you can understand how it could y could work so well is I've always struggled with reading and I always had challenges with being able to read fast fast or fast and also being focused on what I was reading and then I thought to myself why is it reading such a slow and tedious process?
Kam [00:55:57] I mean when I look up into my room environment I can see and make sense of everything instantly, you know, I don't go if I were in the kitchen, I wouldn't be like, well this isn't table and this this is a chair and this has a handle and it's a metal thing.
Kam [00:56:17] So this is a pan. Excuse me. None of that happens. I look in my kitchen and the connection to everything is made in summary. So I thought to myself why couldn't we do that with reading and the thing is we can it's just that the traditional way we read we're looking at word by word and when we look at each individual word are Our folk our eyes focus on that specific word.
Kam [00:56:45] So our eyes have the ability to focus on a specific detail and look at something in the bigger and grander picture by focusing on individual words it Narrows our focus and so we're forced to read word for word. What I recommend people do is not to look at the words, but the spaces in between the words and it sounds a little out there but trust me on this when you look at this piece.
Kam [00:57:11] It's in between the words the I the focus of your eyes, they don't narrow so they can capture more words to the left and right of that space. So if people can pull out a book and our piece of tax and what I recommend is that they skip from the goal from one space to the next between every two to three words and you'll be able to take it in much quicker.
Michael [00:57:38] Wow, okay. So is it still the and I know I've seen a red and you can you can go get these sort of mental tricks to play around with that. We think we're focused on an entire word. But in reality our brain is not maybe it's he's the first and last letter and it fills it in or you might even have partial letters. If you look at some of these exercises and your brain is still filling them in from the patterns that it learned as it learned these symbols that we call words and written representation of language.
Michael [00:58:06] Each so is this the same idea that I don't actually have to focus on a letter. I don't have to focus on a word now. I'm going to focus on space between two or three words and my brain is still going to get that that phrase as opposed to the word
Kam [00:58:21] itself. Yeah, it's not technically the same idea because when you are just focusing on the spaces between every two three or four words, what's happening is that you're using your eyes the way Are used when we're looking at everything else in our environment the always have the ability to absorb a lot more information and with the technique like this.
Kam [00:58:46] What happens is that traditional forms of reading you look at the word and then your mind has a process that word and then make sense of it with this technique the looking and the processing happened instantaneously, so you can just skip from one space to another very rapidly and the mind just takes in information.
Kam [00:59:06] - it's almost as if it's inhaling information. Hmm,
Michael [00:59:10] and is it so I just think about what that's going to feel like for me if I relate it to so I'll just ask if I describe visual Focus I think of it as I can really acutely focus on something and it sort of has the effect of narrowing my peripheral vision. Yeah, if I soften that gauge just a little bit.
Michael [00:59:31] I don't completely spaced out but soften it just a little bit the kind of the the Overall footprint of all we can take in broadens. Is it similar to that feeling
Kam [00:59:41] it's similar to that? Yes, that's exactly what's happening where your eyes are just able to capture more to the left and right of the space then if you put your attention on the word where all you can see, is that specific word.
Michael [00:59:57] Okay. And so that's something that people can obviously that's very quick to describe and if it's just the space between two words, then you're you're going to Practically double your speed is that something that takes a while to practice to learn to do effectively.
Kam [01:00:12] It doesn't take a lot to do effectively. All you have to do is pick up a piece of text and just start with a space maybe three words into the sentence and then skip to a space three words after that and a three words after that and you just focus on just bouncing your gaze from one space to another You're reading triple the speed in a matter of seconds.
Kam [01:00:41] The challenge that comes with it is to actually do it because you know, we're habitual beings and the way our habits work even if the change is something simple it still takes a lot of time whenever to do so it will take a little bit of Effort to break that habit of looking at spaces versus looking at the word, but once a reader can do that essentially they can like I say inhale information and you can and you can actually progress yourself from going from space looking at a space between every three words to every forwards and then overtime every five words and you can literally, you know taking a lot of information without too much effort.
Michael [01:01:27] Okay. Well, thanks for setting the expectation that it's going to take some repetition some practice breaking the old habit. Yeah, I don't want to take too much of your time. Can this is all really fascinating. So maybe to hit a couple more topics fairly quickly. So thinking about how to be successful in speeding up reading and a lot of this that we talked about today has come out of your own challenges or struggles earlier in life.
Michael [01:01:53] So congratulations on everything that you're doing. What what would you say? You know, whether it's past or sort of now or even looking forward what are currently your biggest challenges or what are some of your biggest failures. What have they been and how is that may be driving what you're going to do here going going on in the future and what you're writing what you're speaking about.
Kam [01:02:17] All right. So, you know, this is kind of a Tough question what are some of my biggest challenges I'm facing right now or some of the biggest failures. I know having listened to a few of your podcast. The topic of failure has kind of come up and how important failure was to success and some of the interviewees had even mentioned that essentially they failed their way to success and that's how I kind of look at my life.
Kam [01:02:48] I go in with the expectation that I'm not going to be good. At something and things aren't going to work out but that's how I'm going to learn to grow and move forward. But if I were to talk about one of the my biggest failures, it would be the reason I've written 10 books is because I talked about how I was so nervous about Public speaking professional speaking and presenting myself.
Kam [01:03:16] In fact, I was so nervous that every time I would finish a book instead of going out and marketing it. I would write another book and it was very unconscious. I didn't realize where this urge to write another book came from I just felt like oh wow. This is another great idea and I think people would find it useful and I should write about it and then once I got into writing I was like well, I am writing.
Kam [01:03:42] Now so I don't really have time to go to market myself and don't get me wrong. My book sales did really not really well but enough where I didn't have to put myself out there, but I was a voting putting myself out there and I didn't know that I was avoiding doing that and I thought I was you and I was using writing more books as a way to avoid that.
Kam [01:04:04] So I would say my biggest failures right now that I'm trying to overcome is this black of this putting myself out there more and and talking more and speaking more about my content and letting the world know what I have done and how what I have gone through to be able to do it.
Michael [01:04:22] That's amazing. That's a good one. Yeah. Thanks for the vulnerability in the transparency to share that one and certainly something I think we can many of us can relate to it's really easy to get distracted kind of lose our Focus from what we probably ought to be doing or working on and in ways that we we think are productive. Or need or useful, but they're probably just avoiding something ultimately so to Kudos on that and I'm glad to hear the books doing so well, I know it gives you an opportunity to do many things like like travel which I am love to travel as well.
Michael [01:04:59] It sounds like you have been many many places. I know this is a this is an unfair question. But do you have a favorite that's tough to answer or you know, if that's a tough one. Maybe we're you excited to go next. I haven't
Kam [01:05:12] been okay, so I'll try to answer all of that. Yes. I have traveled quite a bit and a lot of what I've kind of learned about human behavior and animal behavior and some of the ideas. I've come come across is through my travels and I don't think you mentioned but I have traveled to nearly a hundred countries around the world.
Kam [01:05:33] And if I were to pick I came to have a favorite, but I can give you my top five great. Alright so number five would be Number four is Ethiopia. Number three is New Zealand. Number two is Venezuela. And number one is Columbia and I had a very strict criteria to get to this top 5 and it involved, you know, just how friendly the people were how much nature was in the country or how beautiful the nature was as well as like the history and the culture and and just wear.
Kam [01:06:12] Sure that countries come from and so that's where I've kind of made how I made the top five but New Zealand, you know doesn't really have a lot of history and culture per se but it made my top 5 strictly because of the nature because there's amazing nature all over the world. But New Zealand is just like a tad bit better.
Kam [01:06:33] It's just on this higher level. It has put it has things that that other places I haven't seen have so that's the reason was alien with it. But
Michael [01:06:43] oh, yeah, amazing Place amazing friendly people that's got a got to put it up there as well. And I think the the indigenous Maori Pacific Islander culture is pretty interesting as well. I I'll say this too maybe to the Chagrin of some of my Aussie buddies, but I've been to New Zealand twice and Australia twice, I think and I run across people who hit both in there in the same trip and just by By way of sheer size they proportion the trip that way and they go.
Michael [01:07:16] Well, you know, we did we set it up for four weeks in Australia and one week in New Zealand and they get to New Zealand and they go holy cow. I should have done it the other way around.
Kam [01:07:26] Yeah, exactly. Nothing against Australia. I'm going to use Australia's Got really amazing nature and Wildlife as well and with New Zealand, I do you want to rip on yeah, the people are great and the Maori culture like a really enjoyed interacting with the Is the really benefiel home and welcome and I do want to ditto that.
Kam [01:07:48] There's so many cool things to see and there's and they're in such close proximity to each other that yeah like New Zealand's that's a great spot.
Michael [01:07:58] Yeah can't go wrong there. Well, thank you so much Kim super interesting talking to you. I really look forward to reading your books before we wrap up. Let's just talk about where people should find you where they can find the books and your website. And your podcast the things you do and then I think you also have you've been very generous and some actionable ideas here today on the talk, but I think you also have some free resources people can download and go a little deeper.
Kam [01:08:24] Yes, I do. So I do do some coaching. So people want to reach out to us for the coaching aspect. They can reach out to Kam Kam at mind Lilly.com. And then my website is mind Lilly.com and Mayan D. Lol why.com. You can learn more about my books my online course that I put together.
Kam [01:08:45] Also. I have a Blog with a lot of great content as well as some free articles, but if they really wanted to Skyrocket their speed reading concentration and memory, I have a book called triple your reading memory and concentration in 30 minutes and they can get that at mine Lily.com forward slash free, which is MI ND L ILY a.com /up
Michael [01:09:14] Ree Excellent. I just pulled that down myself and it looks like there is an audio component as well. Yes, there is. Excellent. Well, thanks so much Kim. I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to getting this out to our man of Mastery Community. There's tons of stuff here and we didn't even get into your mind mapping techniques, which you have two books on I believe so love to have you back another time and talk further.
Michael [01:09:41] I'm going to definitely drive into the speed reading a huge reader. So I really want to try that. Hope it speeds up my ability to continue to learn more and share with people here. It's just such a great way to you. Get outside your comfort zone but have a chance to meet people like you and learn things like this. So I super appreciate your time and really appreciate you sharing with the audience.
Kam [01:10:04] Great. Thank you very much Michael. It was a pleasure to be on and if you're really interested in in sparking that speed of yours with the reading that book The Triple you're reading my memory and concentration which you can get in mind the lie that comfrey it the first few pages really make it easy for readers to Understand that technique that I talked about because you know talking about it and words without having like a visual cue can be a little bit challenging.
Kam [01:10:34] But once I grab that book, they'll be able to see just how easy it is.
Michael [01:10:38] Okay, perfect all show notes for this episode. I will put links down only to your website. Make sure I get your email out there as well cam at mind Lilly.com but also the the free resource with that not only for more information but actually a practice guide to put this into The practice
Kam [01:10:55] yes, that would be great. Thank you very much Michael.
Michael [01:10:58] Thanks so much Kim. I really appreciate it. All right. Yeah great stuff. I think that's super cool. Not only as a tool set, but in the way that cam has really taken his own hardship and failures and challenges and turn them around not only in two ways that work for him and going out and finding those things but he's become an authority himself an expert in these things and he's here to share with us and others.
Michael [01:11:21] So in fact, look forward to having him back soon to dive deeper into concentration as a practice as well as his tools for mind mapping. That's it for this week. I'd love to hear what you thought about the episode and cams tools put them to use and how they go for you reach out on social media at the man of Mastery on Instagram or Facebook.
Michael [01:11:43] Shoot me a message or post love to hear about your application of cams tools and how they work for you. Also, if you are new and you haven't yet read the podcast, I would really appreciate if you go out to iTunes and give us some feedback in terms of a rating and any comments you might have around that it's super helps the show and the rating algorithms with apple.
Michael [01:12:05] All right, that's it for this week guys. Have a great week next week. I will be back with I call them the real life, Indiana Jones coming up next week on the man of Mastery podcast.
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